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AMD 45nm CPU Lineup Details to be revealed

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At long last, power users have a plethora of performance numbers to ponder now that Intel has lifted its NDA on Core i7 benchmarks. But even though the first batch of benches show the new architecture living up to the hype, AMD isn't packing its bags and going home. On the contrary, the rival chip maker has a slew of 45nm chips coming out, starting this month.

Citing sources at un-named motherboard makers, DigiTimes reports AMD will launch a pair of 45nm quad-core desktop CPUs (Deneb) designed for AM2+ systems this month. The Phenom X4 20550 will come clocked at 3GHz and the 20350 at 2.8GHz. A series of 45nm triple-core chips are also on the way, though these won't start shipping until Q1 2009. These chips include the 14x00, 12x00, and 1xx00e series. On the high end, AMD plans to launch six 45nm quad-core Deneb chips and four entry-level Propus chips in the same time frame.All the new releases could potentially have AMD competing with its upcoming dual-core Athlon X2 processors. To prevent this scenario from playing out, AMD will delay shipping its 45nm AM3-based dual-core parts (Regor) until Q3 2009.

The new processors will also lead to price cuts within AMD's existing product line as the chip maker looks to clear its inventory. If you're an AMD-loyal, keep your eyes peeled for some tantalizing deals on Phenom processors this holiday shopping season and beyond

Intel phases out first 45 nm processors

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Intel announced the immediate phasing out of the first 45nm processors, along with several 65nm models. These include Core 2 Duo, Core 2 Duo Mobile and one Core 2 Quad CPU. In addition, due to migration to the Santa Rosa platform and NAND flash technology, Intel has also discounted its 1GB Turbo Memory used in ReadyBoost.


Three 45nm products discontinued

According to Intel, "Market demand ... has shifted to higher performance Intel processors." When discontinuing a product, Intel typically gives its vendors several months to determine future needs and to place orders. Intel will be taking orders for CPUs this round until January 9, 2009, and will continue manufacturing and shipping products as late as May 7, 2010. Turbo memory orders will be taken until March 27, 2009 and shipped until June 26, 2009.

Intel first released 45nm products earlier this year in January. Already they are phasing out both PGA and BGA versions of three 45nm products including:

Q9450 (2.66 GHz 1333 MT/s, quad-core, 95 watt, LGA775, Yorkfield 45nm)
E8200 (2.66 GHz 1333 MT/s, dual-core, 65 watt, LGA775, Wolfdale 45nm)
E8190 (2.66 GHz 1333 MT/s, dual-core, 65 watt, LGA775, Wolfdale 45nm)


Mobile and desktop 65nm products being discontinued include:

E6850 (3.00 GHz 1333 MT/s, dual-core, 65 watt, LGA775, Conroe 65nm)
E6750 (2.66 GHz 1333 MT/s, dual-core, 65 watt, LGA775, Conroe 65nm)
E6550 (2.33 GHz 1333 MT/s, dual-core, 65 watt, LGA775, Conroe 65nm)
E6540 (2.33 GHz 1333 MT/s, dual-core, 65 watt, LGA775, Conroe 65nm)
E4600 (2.40 GHz 800 MT/s, dual-core, 65 watt, LGA775, Allendale 65nm)

T7400 (2.16 GHz 667 MT/s, mobile dual-core, 34 watt, Socket-M, Merom 65nm)
Celeron-M 530 (1.73 GHz mobile, 533 MT/s, single-core, 30 watt, Socket-M, Merom-1024 65nm)


1GB Turbo Memory and solid state drives

Intel first introduced Turbo Memory as a way to help PCs boot faster. During a demonstrating at Fall IDF 2005, a notebook was shown to be nearly instant-on with the technology. It was also rolled into OS technologies like Microsoft's ReadyDrive and ReadyBoost for Vista.Products first arrived in May, 2007. Intel later extended this technology with version 2.0 in July, 2008. Yesterday, Intel announced it will discontinue all 1GB modules. Intel originally introduced 512MB and 1GB modules.
via tgdaily

Core i7 dated for November 17th

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Intel will launch its Core i7 processors at a press event in San Francisco on the 17th of this month and already we have pricing estimates sliding off whispering lips. Distributors buying in bulk will pay a modest $284 for the 2.66GHz Core i7-920, $562 for the 2.93GHz 940, and $999 for the 3.2GHz Extreme 965 -- consumers will pay more of course, but we don't know exactly how much. Even the 920 squarely defeated the Core 2 Quad Q9650 in benchmarks, and we'll admit we had fun playing with the 965 over the weekend. As for those of you who haven't been so lucky, your chance to run up that credit card debt is fast approaching.
source:TG Daily

Intel Core i7 Bloomfield , The lowest price for the chip is €378 ($484)

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Intels next-generation desktop microprocessors dubbed Core i7 are set for launch on November 17th, yet the chips are already listed at some European retailers. The pricing for these highly awaited Nehalem CPUs starts at €378 ($484), which is not that cheap, yet the performance boost expected from the silicon devices matches the cost. Besides, were talking about quad core processors.

The listed chips are the first ones from the new series Intel announced under the Nehalem architecture. Codenamed Bloomfield, the processors that appeared on the sites mentioned feature a 2.67GHz core frequency. The chip comes under the name of Intel Core i7 920 and is manufactured using the 45 nanometer fabrication process. The CPU comes with a 130W TDP, includes a Triple Channel DDR3-1333 memory controller, as well as the renewed HyperThreading technology and a lot of other features, including Enhanced Halt State (C1E), Extended Stop Grant State (C2E), Deep Sleep State (C3E), Deeper Sleep State (C4E), Deep Power Down (C6), Thermal Monitor 2 and others.

As stated above, the Core i7 Bloomfield processors are slated for a November 17th launch, yet reviews of the chips will most likely surface before that date. For what is worth, Intel is quite proud of the new CPUs, as they mark a step forward for both the company and the IT industry. source:en.hardspell.com

Intel’s Core i7 is great for games

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As part of our thorough testing of Intel's new Core i7 architecture, we've been able to check out just what the top-end Intel Core i7-965 Extreme Edition can do for games. Clocked at 3.2GHz in the factory, this £1,000 quad core part means serious performance. And if there's one thing Intel's Extreme Edition chips do well, it's playing games - especially when you crank it up courtesy of the unlocked multiplier.

While compiling our review we put Core i7, alongside the outgoing Core 2 QX9770 Extreme Edition and AMD's top Phenom chip, through possibly the toughest set of tests we've yet conducted. We also gave specific features such HyperThreading a good seeing to and clocked the twangers off the poor thing in our overclocking tests. Finally, just for good measure, we pitted Core i7 against the monstrous Skulltrail, Intel's exotic dual-CPU platform. You can download all the results as a PDF from our benchmarkathon page.

The key message is that Core i7 has stunning multi-threaded performance, but it's not a massive leap forward for single-thread grunt. In key multi-threaded metrics such as video encoding and professional rendering, Core i7 utterly decimates the opposition. Single-threaded performance remains extremely important and Core i7 is strong here too, if not quite as dominant. However, it is more power-hungry than its predecessor. As for how AMD's Phenom compares, it's an absolute massacre. Intel's finest is now often twice as quick as the best AMD can deliver.

As for individual game benchmarks, the difference between the Core i7-965 Extreme Edition and AMD's top-end Phenom 9950 Black Edition is marked, though the contrast between the Core i7 Extreme Edition and its predecessor, the Core 2 QX9770 Extreme Edition, isn't anywhere near as marked. Here are the figures:

Crysis Warhead
Core i7-965 Extreme Edition: 57fps
Core 2 QX9770 Extreme Edition: 49fps
Phenom 9950 Black Edition: 25fps

Call of Duty 4
Core i7-965 Extreme Edition: 118fps
Core 2 QX9770 Extreme Edition: 108fps
Phenom 9950 Black Edition: 69fps

Lost Planet
Core i7-965 Extreme Edition: 165fps
Core 2 QX9770 Extreme Edition: 105fps
Phenom 9950 Black Edition: 75fps

Half-Life 2
Core i7-965 Extreme Edition: 236fps
Core 2 QX9770 Extreme Edition: 216fps
Phenom 9950 Black Edition: 138fps

And it's not all about performance. Installing games faster also cuts time - though not as much as you'd think due to the bottleneck of the DVD drive. Installing the popular strategy game Company of Heroes: Opposing Front is a 13-minute chore on our average-Joe machine. By contrast, the finest PC technology available to man only cuts that down to the tune of around 30 seconds.

There are three Core i7s available at launch. The entry level chip is the 2.66GHz Core i7-920, yours for £200, or perhaps a touch less. Next up is the 2.93GHz 940 processor, likely to sell for £400. Last is the 965 Extreme Edition. It costs a cool £1,000, runs at 3.2GHz and adds a few overclocking-friendly features such as an unlocked multiplier. All three chips have 8MB of L3 cache and support up to 24GB of 1,066MHz DDR3 memory.

Intel Core i7 965 overclocking test for highest BCLK

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As Intel Core i7 uses a different architecture, the overclocking of the CPU is now largely dependent on what is known as BCLK. BCLK, which you can call it base clock determines a lot of the other settings as they operate based on a ratio to it.

So, if you overclock the BCLK to high, you might end up with a bottleneck with the QPI. For those who are familiar with AM2, QPI is similar to HT on the AM2 platform. ALthough on the AMD platform you can lower the max limit of HT so that it won't exceed a certain value. There is no such option (as yet) on Intel X58 boards for you to do that.

A ES 965 processor is tested for the max BCLK it can reach with the lowest CPU multiplier available (12x). The maximum stable BCLK that can be reached is 200MHz. (Default is 133MHz).

Here is a screen shot.

Kingston’s First 2GHz Memory for Intel Core i7 Platforms

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Kingston detailed its family of triple-channel memory module kits designed for next-generation Intel Core i7 processor and Intel X58 chipset-based platforms. Apparently, Kingston will be the first company to offer end-users 2GHz memory modules designed for Intel Core i7 chips.

“Kingston is excited to bring the fastest DDR3 triple-channel memory products to market as we are the first to deliver 2000MHz gaming kits of three with reduced voltage. All of our triple-channel kits can be overclocked manually or by using XMP-ready profiles. The 2GHz modules have been tested to support up to that speed on Asus P6T Deluxe motherboards while the Intel DX58SO motherboards have been tested up to 1600MHz,” said Mark Tekunoff, senior technology manager at Kingston.

Kingston’s DDR3 triple-channel memory kit family looks as follows:

  • Kingston HyperX PC3-16000 3GB with XMP: 2000MHz clock-speed, CL9 9-9-27 latency settings, 1.65V voltage (KHX16000D3K3/3GX) – $334
  • Kingston HyperX PC3-14900 3GB with XMP: 1866MHz clock-speed, CL9 9-9-27 latency settings, 1.65V voltage (KHX14900D3K3/3GX) – $317
  • Kingston HyperX PC3-14400 3GB with XMP: 1800MHz clock-speed, CL9 9-9-27 latency settings, 1.65V voltage (KHX14400D3K3/3GX) – $312
  • Kingston HyperX PC3-12800 3GB with XMP: 1600MHz clock-speed, CL8 8-8-24 latency settings, 1.65V voltage (KHX12800D3LLK3/3GX) – $285
  • Kingston HyperX PC3-11000 3GB with XMP: 1375MHz clock-speed, CL7 7-7-20 latency settings, 1.65V voltage (KHX11000D3LLK3/3GX ) – $192
  • Kingston ValueRAM PC3-10666 6GB: 1333MHz clock-speed, CL9 9-9 latency settings, 1.5V voltage (KVR1333D3N9K3/6G) – $240
  • Kingston ValueRAM PC3-10666 3GB: 1333MHz clock-speed, CL9 9-9 latency settings, 1.5V voltage (KVR1333D3N9K3/3G) – $132
  • Kingston ValueRAM PC3-8500 6GB: 1066MHz clock-speed, CL7 7-7 latency settings, 1.5V voltage (KVR1066D3N7K3/6G) – $240
  • Kingston ValueRAM PC3-8500 3GB: 1066MHz clock-speed, CL7 7-7 latency settings, 1.5V voltage (KVR1066D3N7K3/3G) – $142

With 2GHz DDR3 memory modules with relatively low voltage settings designed for Intel Core i7 central processing units in the lineup, Kingston has all chances to substantially boost its sales and become more popular among enthusiasts seeking for maximum performance possible. source:xbitlabs.com

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 + BIOSTAR TP45 HP OC Review, part two

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Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 + BIOSTAR TP45 HP OC Review
Q8200,333X7=>2.33G,L2 4MB,45nm

BIOSTAR TP45 HP
Performance★★★★★★★★★☆
Components ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
Layout design ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
Cost/ performance ratio ★★★★★★★★★☆




Q8200 OC
500X7=>3500Mhz,Hyper PI 32M


3dMark

Hardware Monitor
Over Clock III

CrystalMark
PCMark05
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 + BIOSTAR TP45 HP OC Review,

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 + BIOSTAR TP45 HP OC Review

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Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 + BIOSTAR TP45 HP OC Review
Q8200,333X7=>2.33G,L2 4MB,45nm


BIOSTAR TP45 HP
Performance ★★★★★★★★★☆
Components ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
Layout design ★★★★★★★☆☆☆
Cost/ performance ratio ★★★★★★★★★☆

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 about 200 usd
BIOSTAR TP45 HP about 130 usd



6 X SATAII(ICH10)
1 x IDE
Power/Reset

2 x PCI-E X16
2 x PCI-E X1
2 x PCI
1 x Floppy

4 x DIMM DDR2,667/800/1066
24Pin

BIOSTAR TP45 HP


CPU: INTEL Core 2 Duo E8400 & Quad Q8200
MB: BIOSTAR TP45 HP
DRAM: CORSAIR Dominator TWIN2X2048-8888C4DF
VGA: MSI R4850-T2D512
HD: WD6400AAKS
POWER: Corsair HX1000W Modular Power Supply
Cooler: Thermaltake BigTyp VP


Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200

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Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2.33GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor

Q8200 beat AMD Phenom 9850
Pros: This chip beats all other combos I have recently tried for the price. I got this chip with an ecs g31 mobo for $215. I spent $109 for a core 2 duo 7200 combo and $109 for a phenom x3 8450. For the extra hundred or so dollars I get like 500% better performance. The core 2 duo lagged with only a few things open at once. The phenom x3 did a little better on multitasking but scored lower on benchmarks than the core 2 duo. When I got this chip it opened up my options of what I can do. I can download 5 things at once, play bioshock and install blacksite and defrag and run disk cleanup and I was only using like 10% cpu. I had no lag. this chip is amazing. I run dual channell ddr2 6400 800mhz. this is a great investment. it will hold up to software for several years due to the amount of cores and the fact most games dont multithread right now. amazing chip. also the 45nm runs so much cooler than the amd 65nm chips. my proc stays between 24-40c at idle and load with a thermaltake mini typhoon.

Cons: the 4 mega cache is the only con I can think of it really doesn't lessen your performance. but I think a chip like this especially a 45nm quad core could of had a bigger cache but for the money it's perfectly fine. the q6600 has an 8 meg cache but is a 65nm chip. I've heard that the 45nm vs 65nm actually speeds the chip up a tad so the cache size really doesn't effect this penryn too much. It performs in the same spectrum as the q6600 and other quad cores.

Pros: The Q8200 is a dandy little quad chip. It runs smooth, and i overclocked it to 2.6GHz w/ ease, and it measured 3811 on cpu test 3DMark06 benchmark. It could oc higher, but it's nice at 2.6GHz. i run it on a gigabyte ex38-ds4 mobo, zerotherm btf90 hsf 92mm fan, and it's a joy. i dumped a Q9450 to get this chip, and now i have an elegant little high end rig. Highly recommended.
Cons: No cons. i worried about the slight 4MB L2 cache, but it proves to be no drawback. Yorkie Q8200 rocks.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 runs cool and fast, multi task like crazy, burn dvd, watch video and lots of windows open and still not show being taxed much. Do a google search, Q8200 beat AMD Phenom 9850, it even beat Q6600 in quite a few tests. Don't forget, 45nm cheap on average is 14% faster than 65nm chip. Meaning Q6600 is 2.4 ghz, and this Q8200 would be equal to 2.65 ghz (2.33 x 1.14). and has a higher FSB.